Nin10dude789 (2015-02-21 05:31:38)

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How is it fine?

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FrostLight (2015-02-21 05:31:53)

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This is getting good .

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Senshi (2015-02-21 05:35:40)

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>insert witty comment here<

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little5 (2015-02-21 09:03:38)

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The fetus can feel pain–pain much more intense than adults–that doesn't matter if they're not sentient. They don't sense pain like we do. It's more like an instinct. Am I saying their life doesn't matter because they're unconscious? No, I'm saying they never (truly) had a life in the first place.

Unborn babies don't think, and saying aborting kills children is like giving birth to a brain-damaged, dead (but not braindead) child who needs life support and removing it's life support is killing babies. The mother is the life support, and the kid, if conceived irresponsibly by an alcoholic, drug addict, or maybe into a 3rd world country, is brain-damaged. "But these kids have a chance at life, give them their chance!" And waste their mother's lifetime, restricting her from doing the things she wants to do because she's carrying an unwanted baby sucking away at her energy? Their life would've been never very decent or fit for anyone, considering the low chance of them being adopted into a permanent family.

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Nin10dude789 (2015-02-21 12:59:08)

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^Finally! Someone with a brain!

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YouMeAtSix (2015-02-21 14:04:06)

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Its a possible life, that life that was just killed could have grew up to do something important, gain love ones, start a family of their own, this is why I'm "on the fence" I believe that a woman who has been stupid enough to not use protection and make sure the guy is wearing protection should keep the baby, if they truly cant be a parent they should give the child up for adoption, on the other hand, rape is not the woman's fault they shouldn't have to go through labor.


Really? Comparing a fetus with a brain dead child? Wow, a fetus has no life but can grow and be natured to become something, have a family, a brain dead child on life support isn't going to be able to have a full life or be able to experience life.

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little5 (2015-02-21 14:16:14)

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"if conceived irresponsibly by an alcoholic, drug addict, or maybe into a 3rd world country... "But these kids have a chance at life, give them their chance!" And waste their mother's lifetime, restricting her from doing the things she wants to do because she's carrying an unwanted baby sucking away at her energy? Their life would've been never very decent or fit for anyone, considering the low chance of them being adopted into a permanent family."


"Its a possible life, that life that was just killed could have grew up to do something important, gain love ones, start a family of their own,"
I do see where you're coming from with this one. There's also the possibility of that baby becoming a mass murderer.. Tables turn.

"I believe that a woman who has been stupid enough to not use protection and make sure the guy is wearing protection should keep the baby, if they truly cant be a parent they should give the child up for adoption, on the other hand, rape is not the woman's fault they shouldn't have to go through labor."

What if the protection failed? As previously said, there are already many kids overrunning the adoption places and being switched between foster homes constantly.


"Really? Comparing a fetus with a brain dead child? Wow, a fetus has no life but can grow and be natured to become something, have a family, a brain dead child on life support isn't going to be able to have a full life or be able to experience life."
Again, I see where you're coming from, but they're both dependent vegetables who really don't have a chance at a (good) life.

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Nin10dude789 (2015-02-21 16:03:32)

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@Mega
I'm a cherry picking Christian? Dude, I'm not. Even if I was an atheist, Mormon, or whatever, I'll still be against abortion. Quit using your stupid cherry picking excuse.

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AntiChrist (2015-02-21 16:04:53)

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TetrisDude335's indecisiveness is justified. There are clearly some gray areas.


Regarding the argument, let's say that the irresponsible ones couldn't get an abkrtion. Woukd you want people like that taking care of a child? That causes a lot more problems than a clump of non-sentinent cells dying. Also, if you don't support abortion, you may as well not support condoms either, yet some of you are saying that it's the alternative people should use rather than aborting the child.

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iceman (2015-02-21 16:12:25)

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^LOL

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AntiChrist (2015-02-21 16:21:56)

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The "cynical ass hole phase". INTJs are apperantly well known for going through this, usually during their early twenties, but it can also be during their teenage years. During this phase, they are extremely arrogant and don't realize it. They constantly try to look really smart and are quick to treat people as inferior on an intellectual level.

They can't ever not start an argument. They don't keep quiet whenever someone else states an opinion they disagree with. Whenever someone disagrees with them, the INTJ going through this phase will usually just ignore everything the person says as they wait for their turn to talk.

If you want more information, the mbti and intj subreddit talks about it often. There are lots of people there who have had experiences with stupid INTJs.

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AntiChrist (2015-02-21 16:27:26)

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Actually, carlos seems like he's being sarcastic most of the time. I can't really tell though so it could be possible.

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little5 (2015-02-21 16:51:28)

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..Time for a new MBTI personality thread.

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Lani (2015-02-21 16:53:49)

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If they're recoiling, they're FEELING pain because it's their instinct to do that when they're hurt. I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that their pain is less...their pain receptors throughout their entire little bodies are fully developed no later than 20 weeks, so they feel just as much pain as a full term baby does.

And again, an innocent unborn child who has never seen the light of day should NEVER have the chance to live taken away. As I was saying before, abortion most often is an act of selfishness. People who believe their child might not survive through birth may have more of an argument, however I still think that child should have a chance.
If you're going to be irresponsible and get pregnant, that's the consequence and you should live with it....it's not as though having a child is total hell. Yes, it has its moments, but any just about any parent will tell you how beautiful it is to have a child.
I don't see why an innocent person who had no choice in the matter should suffer by death because their parent would just feel happier without them.

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AntiChrist (2015-02-21 17:03:43)

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Most people on this website are INFP, which makes a lot of sense. There are three INTJs in the forums. Me, Spencer and Carlos11. Nintendodude thinks he is one, but I wouldn't be too sure.

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