HanShotFirst (2013-02-17 19:17:39)

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Frieza's last form is his strongest. His first form is only a fraction of his power.

Anyways, I honest need to say something.

Superman never had a chance at beating Goku. When you can move faster than Superman can, punch harder than Superman can, and have enough power to blow up several planets without even powering up, saying Superman wins is total BS.

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SwaggyP (2013-02-17 20:08:09)

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But when he goes into a yellow star or a blue star his power is multiplied millions of times stronger then his usual self. I think SuperMan winning the battle was accurate plus him winning being backed up by stats. @ Han

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SwaggyP (2013-02-17 20:11:25)

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^Lol

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HanShotFirst (2013-02-17 21:21:17)

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Those stats are, once again, BS.

In a fight, we'd first need to understand three things in the fighters.

Power (How much damage can they do?)

Constitution (How much damage can they take?)

and Movement (How fast can they move, and how fast is their reaction time?)

Superman is capable of Wonton destruction in the DC universe since he overpowers every character there, but he doesn't have the power to blow up the planet effortlessly. In other words, he can destroy everything but the planet itself.

Goku on the other hand, can destroy the planet easily. Proof? He beat Frieza.

Frieza's first form had enough power to casually destroy Planet Vegeta and every single Saiyan on it. Mind you, his 1st form is only a fraction of his power. His 2nd form has a Power Level of 1 million and it's still not close to his full power.

Onto his 4th form, it loses to SS1 Goku, meaning at the time, SS1 Goku could blow up a world casually. Later on, Goku faces Buu, and due to my good pal and his calculations, Non SS Goku could potentially blow up the Solar system at the time, and at maximum power (SS4 Goku), he could potentially destroy the entire Galaxy.

In terms of power, Goku wins.

Onto Constitution.

Both are immune to conventinal weaponry, so, in order to truly determine how much punishment they can take, you have to measure the power of the strongest being that's kicked their ass.

In this case, we'll have to compare Doomsday to, in order to save time, Perfect Cell.

Do you really think Doomsday can beat Cell in a fight?

I thought so. In the end, Goku can take more punishment than Superman, because each time Goku nearly dies, he becomes powerful enough to curbstomp any enemy he has to fight a 2nd time. He's also fought enemies that have proven to be much more powerful than Superman, and beats them in a one-sided fight.

Lastly Speed.

In the end, it's also no contest.

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SwaggyP (2013-02-17 21:28:14)

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Superman destroyed a GALAXY by just sneezing.

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SwaggyP (2013-02-17 21:30:00)

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Superman has only three weaknesses Kryptonite,magic, and a redstar. Ki and Chi are not magic leaving Goku to only use his power pole because it is magic but that would only get him so far.

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SwaggyP (2013-02-17 21:34:44)

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SuperMan can also lift more then 200 quintillion tons with one arm.

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HanShotFirst (2013-02-17 23:30:05)

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Okay, so prove the source of those facts.

You have to point out when, and where in any D.C. comic, Superman has ever destroyed a Galaxy by sneezing, and exactly where you got the 200 quintillion tons measurement. For it to be a stat mein freund, you must have evidence from the source work.

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SwaggyP (2013-02-20 22:17:05)

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I forgot where the galaxy sneezing came from but it was from the comics (I forgot which issue) SuperMan lifted more than 200 quintillion tons in either the Justice League animated show or SuperMan animated show.

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SwaggyP (2013-02-20 22:18:12)

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In reality SuperMan could of ended Goku in one single blow but that wouldn't be fun.

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