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AntiChrist (2014-09-15 11:01:03)@Nutsy I'm curious, what exactly is an example of what you would call "putting yourself in a situation" where you would get raped?
Nutsy (2014-09-15 11:03:43)It's the friends you make. The conditions for rape aren't very loose. Nobody would do it in public or when they're parents are home.
AntiChrist (2014-09-15 11:10:59)Let me help you guys see my perspective:
Let's say this person who is about 38 years old has worked very hard to get to the high ranking position in his company that he spent years getting to. Now all of a sudden this 23 year old who has only had about two jobs in his life shows up and has little to no experience, but the owner of the company is willing to fire the high ranking person so that the new guy can have his position. His reasoning is "I just want to give this guy a chance."
Is that right? The younger person not only doesn't have a family to support and wjatnot (like the guy who worked hard to get to his position) but it's uncertain weather or not he WILL do a good job.
That doesn't sound like a very rational thing for the boss to do, right?
AntiChrist (2014-09-15 11:14:19)That's no reason to blame the victim. Not everyone knows to surround themselvs with good people 24/7 "just to be safe". You have to be realistic about this.
AntiChrist (2014-09-15 11:15:21)Infliction, I was referring to everyone who is against debating. Not just in this thread.
Jason2k14 (2014-09-15 11:21:33)Exactly, AntiChrist. A little debating will not hurt anybody. Unless you've never had a real debate before..
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AntiChrist (2014-09-15 11:25:40)I've been in countless debates. I even lost a few because I admitted I was wrong. Still, in my opinion, the numner of times one's been in an argument is irrelevant. It's weather or not youbknow what you're talking about that matters.
Nutsy (2014-09-15 11:28:47)The newbie won't die without a job. He could find one elsewhere. He could find a job elsewhere. The fetus can't find another way into life.
Do people who have an abortion count as murderers?
Nutsy (2014-09-15 11:53:35)That's good sometimes.
Abortion will become pointless eventually. Medical advancements and all that jazz. The only legit reason you ever would have is if you yourself would die, like AntiChrist said. I don't agree with him.
Mephistopheles (2014-09-15 13:40:09)We should force abortions on people if they can't afford to productively raise a child that will benefit society.
What's a second of pain to a fetus instead of a life of pain and poverty, an most likely crime. Saving others who are victims of a mistake made years prior.
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Maybe my comment about ones against debating here was a little harsh. Sorry about that.
As for abortion being "overly used" which I think you mean for not good reason (example: just plain not wanted to use a condom OR have a baby) that's going to happen regardless of weather or not it is legal. Still, punishing those who don't have abortions for petty reasons ijust to stop those who do is unfair no matter how you look at it.