Lani (2015-05-13 12:45:20)

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Just because Carlos doesn't admit his wrongs doesn't mean he's a bad moderator enough to be demoted. I honestly haven't seen anyone else but a select few (most being specifically butthurt by Carlos) screaming for his demotion. Unlike Bellamy, 90% of the rest of the site doesn't really care if Carlos is a forum mod or not.

So he deleted a thread wrongly ages ago (I understand the butthurt, but it was just one thread and it hasn't happened again recently) and he "misused" the D3000 (this has already been settled, and he hasn't and won't do it again). The only other argument being that he's not as strict as you'd prefer him to be, which honestly is what is causing all the hypocracy. You want him to be strict with the people/content you don't like it, but the moment he's strict with you or anyone else whom you like, it's a issue big enough for demotion. I haven't seen Carlos run around deleting every little thread he personally doesn't like, or lock them, or consciously let people swear and talk about mature content...which honestly sounds like that's what you're implying he does.

Also, just because the CM doesn't make decisions you want doesn't mean they're a bad CM. Plaza isn't being bestroyed by Carlos' moderation, or anyone else's. If the CM decideds Carlos is a bad mod, fine. If the CM decides Carlos is a good mod, respect that, because Carlos isn't that bad at all.

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carlos11 (2015-05-13 12:51:35)

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I didn't misuse the D3000 at all. I only used it to ban people who broke serious website rules. If you think I misused it, you're on the side of the people that broke the rules. In other words, you're wrong.

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carlos11 (2015-05-13 13:14:19)

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I assumed responsibility for the moderators who were not present. You cannot be the judge of whether or not that was wrong because you have no understanding of what a moderator can or cannot do. You keep forgetting that I am a moderator.

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Nutsy (2015-05-13 14:48:56)

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You're talking about my kin tomorrow, right?

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Perfect_Chaos (2015-05-13 20:27:22)

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Doesn't the D3000 erase users from existence?

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Lani (2015-05-13 20:37:43)

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^ The D3000 erases all forum threads/posts(?) of the said user, while permabanning the account at the same time....the account still exists, the only content wiped from existence is their forum activity.

I'd just like to mention once again that SL had no issue with moderators moderating outside their specifc feild. If it's necessary, a chat moderator could ban a forum user, and if general banning was acessable to forum mods, a forum moderator could ban a chat user if necessary.The only thing wrong with using the D3000 to ban misbehaving users in the chatrooms is the loss of forum content.

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BirdJesus (2015-05-13 20:45:03)

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I'd like more insight on the extent of a mod's powers. 

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Leviathan (2015-05-14 00:10:16)

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Lani, I'm afraid SirDavid is right about this. I'm sorry.

I agree with SirDavid and BirdJesus. I would also like to add that when I come to the art forums saying I am a good artist, and he just simply states I'm terrible, that's okay. But if I state he is terrible at his job, I'm overstepping my boundries. Carlos is extremely arrogent and believes he is never at wrong, every demotion was a mistake, and anybody who disagrees with him is just some radical.

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Nutsy (2015-05-14 00:13:40)

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*arrogant

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carlos11 (2015-05-14 00:22:35)

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Oh my god, PLEASE don't bring your "art" into this. I am begging you.

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Leviathan (2015-05-14 00:34:12)

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Thanks, Nutsy. I keep getting the spellings of Arrogant and Argument wrong despite autocorrect.

The difference is what? That your moderation is actually good? Because one could say your "moderation" is just as ty as my art. Because to you, you're a moderation genius. And to me, I'm a good artist. But if you hear me say I'm a good artist, you would think what an idiot. Now imagine that same situation except me being you, and me saying I'm a good moderator when I'm clearly not.

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BirdJesus (2015-05-14 00:37:35)

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Carlos, I don't doubt your abilities. I'm more concerned about the general rules. This site is geared towards children, yet a lot of content posted is not appropriate. I don't care if most users here are teenagers. Rob and SL set out to create a family-friendly community. More action should be taken to keep this community safe for all ages. If what I post is not appropriate, please tell me and I'll stop posting that content. If Rob and SL have revoked their stance on the whole "family-friendly" thing, please tell me. 

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carlos11 (2015-05-14 01:32:10)

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I frequently remove overly explicit images depicting lewd acts and remind users to refrain from posting that content.

Now, there's two things that could have happened over the course of the past few months. Either I've gone liberal, or you've gone conservative? Tell me, which do you think is more plausible?

Keep in mind that there are people pushing me on both sides. On one, I have the SirDavids claiming I do nothing about pornography. On the other, I have the megas and the Spectors claiming I consider the mildest of things to be pornography and wrongfully remove images.

I am aware of the wants of both parties, and I cater to neither of them. Instead, I strike a balance. How do I know it works? Because they're both equally displeased. They, however, are both radical minorities. In striking a balance, I'm making the website better for the regular users, not the special groups.

If I've gone liberal, I can understand that the balance may have been upset. This would need fixing.

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BirdJesus (2015-05-14 01:49:17)

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I see. I constantly view things in black and white without ever realizing it, so I apologize for acting like an extremist.

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2015-05-14 01:58:02

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carlos11 (2015-05-14 02:01:08)

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But I do believe I've reached a point where I am tolerating too much explicit content.

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